| Kevin: Let's start by just giving a brief introduction | | | | weeks. That means your medical doctor, in |
| about yourself so everyone knows. Why don't I | | | | general, has six to eight hours of nutrition. If you |
| let you tell the story and then we'll move on to | | | | read two good books, you know more than your |
| the real information. | | | | doctor. |
| Jon: All right, let me sort of keep it short. I've | | | | Kevin: Yeah. That's the truth, isn't it? |
| been involved in health and nutrition for over 40 | | | | Jon: All you have to do is look at a hospital food |
| years. | | | | and anyone who believes that promotes nutrition |
| Kevin: Wow. | | | | is out of their minds, but this is what doctors |
| Jon: I actually started working with foods when I | | | | believe promotes nutrition and you are listening to |
| was like 16. My father was one of the first food | | | | these people for advise on nutrition - big problem. |
| technologists in the country and I actually worked | | | | So coming back to my background, I learned |
| with him designing some foods - designing, of all | | | | from these guys that they treated the body as a |
| things, an ice cream line at the age of 16. | | | | whole. They didn't treat certain diseases. The |
| Kevin: Okay. | | | | other amazing thing that I learned from them is - |
| Jon: When I went to college I was planning to | | | | I found within 15 or 20 minutes of meeting |
| become a doctor. I went in as premed. There | | | | people, they can almost universally - they would |
| were a couple of things; one is, I wasn't dedicated | | | | lean in and they would tell me who was going to |
| to it but the bigger problem was that I was | | | | get welll. It didn't matter how ill they were and |
| becoming very disillusioned back in the mid 60's | | | | sometimes there were people who were really ill |
| with where medicine was going. And, even at the | | | | and were like days from death, they will get well. |
| age of 17 back then, I was writing the | | | | What would happen is everybody comes in saying |
| relationships with diet and ageing and supper | | | | the same thing, you know. I've been here - dah, |
| foods that were available then, such as bee pollen | | | | dah, dah - does this happen, I've been told I'm |
| - how they could affect ageing. Along the way, I | | | | going to die, I'll do anything it takes to get well |
| began to sort of search out the people who were | | | | and then these guys, the doctors, would lay out a |
| doing it and these are people who I would call | | | | program and this is program that deals with the |
| miracle doctors. Back then, if you want to learn | | | | whole body - the whole thing, you have to clean |
| alternative health, you didn't have all the choices | | | | out, you have to detox, you have to change |
| you have now. You didn't have newsletters, you | | | | your diet, all these things and suddenly there |
| didn't have schools - it was - the doctors who | | | | would be a look that would come across people's |
| were doing it were all worried about getting | | | | faces. Some would say, okay, I will do this better |
| thrown in jail. Even today in half the states in this | | | | than anyone has ever done it before but a large |
| country, it's illegal for even a medical doctor to | | | | number of people would say, wow, that's really |
| prescribe alternative treatments for things like | | | | complicated. I thought you were just going to |
| cancer. | | | | give me an herb or something. It seems easier to |
| Kevin: Wow. | | | | have it cut out and that was an amazing attitude. |
| Jon: So back then it was even worse to find | | | | As I said - something that I would hear as I |
| these doctors. You had to find someone who | | | | would go give lectures all around the country - I |
| knew someone, who knew the doctor because | | | | would talk about the base line of health program |
| you were so paranoid, but the guys who were | | | | doing all of this healing for the whole body - don't |
| practicing back then were doing some amazing | | | | treat specific diseases - the whole thing. At the |
| things and what I learned is that people who had | | | | end, people would swarm up and they go, wow, |
| been told they were going to die, were getting | | | | that's incredible. I never it phrased like that before. |
| well. They base it on people who had gone | | | | It makes so much sense. You've got to do the |
| through - and cancer, of course one of the big | | | | whole body right. Well, I have this condition, what |
| one. People had gone through a round of chemo | | | | pill should I take. |
| and surgery. Nothing worked and they had been | | | | Kevin: Yeah. |
| sent home and would come to these doctors and | | | | Jon: And they all go back to that magic bullet. So, |
| were getting well. We're they all getting well? Of | | | | what I learned is you have to deal with the whole |
| course not, but a significant percentage of those | | | | body and the people who get well are that people |
| who were told they were going to die did | | | | that understand that and make a commitment to |
| recover. | | | | do. The more of a commitment you make, the |
| There are a couple of interesting things that I | | | | better your odds are. No guarantees, only odds. I |
| noticed is it didn't matter which doctor that I was | | | | would joke - we've all heard the story of the guy |
| talking to, they were all doing variations on a | | | | who lives 80 years, smoking and drinking every |
| theme and this became the essence of the base | | | | day and doesn't die of disease, he dies because |
| line of the health program is they tended not to | | | | he gets shot by a jealous husband who finds him |
| treat disease in the same way medical doctors | | | | in bed with his 20 year old wife. It could happen |
| do. Medical doctors are into magic bullets. I think | | | | and you hear about it occasionally, but the odds |
| there is an outgrowth in the history of medicine | | | | are, if you smoke and drink every day, you are |
| and science in general where everything gets | | | | basically going down in your 50s with lung cancer |
| categorized and isolated and the body gets | | | | or cirrhosis. Those are the odds. You eat well |
| treated like an engine where you know, if | | | | every day, you can drop dead like Jim Fix the |
| something goes wrong with the carburetor, you | | | | runner did. But in general, your odds are much |
| swap out a part. So the idea of treating the body | | | | better of living longer. |
| systemically is gone from medicine. It's all down to | | | | Anyway, back to my background - I work these, |
| individual pieces, which works great if you're in an | | | | I've studied with them - I began to write down |
| automobile accident or your name's John Wayne | | | | what they did and so for actually about 30 years, |
| Bobbitt. If you're John Wayne Bobbitt, you are | | | | I've been putting out newsletters and trying to |
| better off with a surgeon than an herbalist. | | | | sort of document what I learned about treating |
| Kevin: Absolutely. | | | | the body as a whole and different programs they |
| Jon: But when it comes to the major diseases we | | | | would use and also along the way - about 20 |
| face where they tend to have multiple causes to | | | | years ago - I began to formulate because these |
| be systemic in nature, that approach doesn't | | | | guys wanted to practice medicine, not make |
| work as well. The standard treatment or one of | | | | formulas. So I began to learn how to make the |
| the main standard treatments for cancer is | | | | formulas that would be effective in treating these |
| chemotherapy. Chemotherapy is designed to kill a | | | | things and what I learned is, in most cases the |
| cancer, a particular manifestation of it, it doesn't | | | | problem with most formulas is they are not |
| get to the root cause unless you believe that you | | | | strong enough and people don't use enough. They |
| get cancer, because you are suffering from a | | | | are afraid of them. If you are using natural |
| chemotherapy deficiency. | | | | formulas, you have to use strong enough ones |
| Kevin: Sure. | | | | and they, you have to use enough and a lot of |
| Jon: If you're not, it isn't doing it. In fact | | | | the reason people don't go strong enough is cost. |
| chemotherapy is a known carcinogen. The idea of | | | | Good quality herbs, for example, cost a lot more |
| medicine, of treating everything in isolation, in | | | | than bad ones. Herbs actually carry grades based |
| treating with bullets, doesn't work well. What the | | | | on their quality. |
| miracle doctors were doing is they would treat | | | | It's a little like cooking herbs - if anyone's done |
| the body as a whole and I found it didn't matter if | | | | any cooking - you can buy saffron, Mexican |
| people were coming in cancer or MS or whatever, | | | | saffron - get a big bag for about four or five |
| they put them on essentially the same program | | | | dollars. You can get Spanish saffron - you get a |
| which was designed to deal with the whole body | | | | little vile with like 12 threads in it and that can cost |
| at once. The theory is, they are not treating | | | | you $18.00 - a huge number. But the difference is |
| disease, they are just trying to optimize the | | | | it takes you a couple of teaspoons to flavor a |
| body's ability to do what it's designed to do and if | | | | dish with the Mexican saffron. One thread will |
| you think about it, the body is actually a pretty | | | | flavor an entire dish - one or two threads of the |
| remarkable machine, all the things it does. It's | | | | Spanish, it's that much more intense. Well you see |
| designed to stay healthy, to build, to rebuild and | | | | the same kinds of things in herbs. You can buy |
| repair itself. That's what it does and it's only when | | | | ginseng for $5.00 a pound or $400 to $600 a |
| you interfere with that that you start to run into | | | | pound for the organical wild crafted. That's a huge |
| problems. An interference is you either overload it | | | | difference. Put them in your formula and on the |
| with things that it can't handle, toxins or you don't | | | | label, they both say ginseng but which one actually |
| provide it with enough nutrients. A simple light on | | | | works. So you have to use good enough quality, |
| that is you can't build the same body out of | | | | high strength and that's how you get results. |
| pepperoni pizza, beer and ding dongs that you can | | | | That's really a round about sort of way of saying |
| out of real food. | | | | what do I do which is sort of like - I write about |
| Kevin: Yeah. | | | | the things I've learned. We have a newsletter |
| Jon: You get calories and that's again a sense of | | | | now on jonbarron.org. It's free and goes out |
| isolation. Anyone who thinks that doctors know | | | | around the world. It actually mails to virtually |
| nutrition or goes to doctors for nutritional advice, | | | | every country in the world and my favorite stat |
| they don't study this. In medical school they either | | | | on that one is that I have six e-mail addresses |
| get no classes, none on nutrition or they get one | | | | that all end in fda.gov for subscribers. |
| and a class is one hour a week for six to eight | | | | |